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If you have a question about the language, ask it and fellow 4channers might see it and answer it for you.

英語でも日本語でもOK
日本の方からのご協力も大歓迎です

See >>2 for recommendations of
■ useful software
■ dictionaries
■ sites to get media
■ other resources

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>>514
No, because the entire phrase is coupled to ~ことが決まっている. They all dream of the day when riko becomes the 神様のお嫁さん.

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>>515
Thanks for help.

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In this case - いつもは車の音や街の音にかき消されてしまう、世界の囁き。それらの音が、世界の中心にあることを思い知らされ、だから、人の世界の不在を強く実感してしまうのだ
それらの音が goes with 世界の中心にある ?
Thanks in advance!

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>>517
それらの音が、世界の中心にあることを思い知らされ
That whole thing

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>>518
In this case, can you please check my translation: It's making realize that those noises are in the world's core.

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How do you schedule your day to study two languages? I'm trying to get into japanese and french, but google isn't being useful.
Have you tried it? How did you do it? Divide the day half and half? One day each? etc etc

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The only way I really "study" languages is by reading random shit on the Internet in that language and trying to participate in discussion in broken Spanish/Italian/German.

So yeah, just alternate between the languages i guess

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I learning Japanese and Spanish. Spanish i actually takig a class in, and Japanese I'm learnig by myself with help from the internet

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>>3
If that's the case, what websites should you visit?

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I'm learning Ancient Greek and German. Monday and Wednesday for German, Tuesday and Saturday for Greek.
It's worked like magic up to now.

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i'am lerning english and brazilian portugues, portugues is very easy wen you speak spanish and I can read fine in english but im terrible wrinting

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i want to learn russian and mandarin. can someone who knows either or both of these languages be my mentor?

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No way, sir. Read your textbooks and ask me once you don't get something.

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do you recommend any textbooks?

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Well... I can't really think of any.
For starters, you can give a once over to "Russian for Dummies". Don't take it seriously trying to memorize anything. 'Cause I don't like trasliteration being used troughout the whole book like it's some kind of tourist phrase book. So read it just for getting  a general idea. Meanwhile I'll think of something better. You can download it here
https://www.u-cursos.cl/usuario/cc5ce5405bf442d82b0bdadbf6cf4e6c/mi_blog/r/Russian_for_Dummies_(2006).pdf

What are you reasons for learning it BTW?

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if i say just casual interest will you not recommend me the best book?

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I don't think casual interest is enough to learn a language. I for example am learning japanese because of tons of games, anime and books I'd like to read. Yet even then I sometimes feel dejected at my slow progress.
Anyway I believe that book of quite ok for a complete beginner.

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    I wouldn't even consider myself xenofobic, not against poland, japanese, whatever, but I hate all americans with all my might.

    I fucking hate americans. They are as bad as mexicans, maybe even worse. I hate them with the fury of 1000 suns, those hamburger eating fuckers. They are the cancer killing the modern world. Not only are they straight ugly and fat, they are stupid. They may run tech centers and shit, but they're so stupid it's rage enticing. Every time I see an american woman I want to throw up all over the fucking place. On top of this, they smell terrible. Every time an american turns to talk to me, the mixture of their BO and breathe makes me want to shoot myself to get rid of the pain. It's like they never bathe. I could take my hairy ass and rub shit all over it, not only would it be smarter and prettier than an american, it would smell many times better. There food is disgusting too. I could mix sewage in with vomit and make better cuisine.

    Their country is shit too. It's over crowded and smelly as a pair of old dudes balls. They're the cancer killing this world, they're like mexicans except they aren't as good at sports and they aren't quite as violent. Just as ugly, stupid fat and smelly.

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>>2

Boo hoo.

2 years later America invaded a country resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands over a decade-long war. And it wasn't even the country that attacked them in 2001.

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AMERICANS FUGGLY

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>>1
All of this is true except the overcrowded part. It really isn't overcrowded.

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Jesus Christ. 9/11 is a fucking joke. Millions have died because of America's retaliation to that "tragedy". The twin tours were filled with disposable people just like the citizens in Iraq being blown up by drones. Until you realize that the American govt. and govt. in general is treating the masses like guinea pigs you will live in total ignorance dipshit.

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>>28
I googled "twin tours" so that I could make a joke, maybe about a band's tours or something, but google still thinks I'm looking for twin towers. There are only three hits for twin tours and two of them are for a site called Twin Tours, which offers trips to Israel.

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[5:7] German

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Being a native English speaker, I find the word order in German pretty difficult to grasp and looks random.

How come?

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VP's aren't head-initial

If you can't handle that, you really aren't trying

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English is an SVO (Subject-Verb-Object) language, German is an SOV (Subject-Object-Verb) language.

e.g., a valid sentence in English is "He ate an apple". A valid sentence in German would have the structure "He an apple ate."

Verbs come after the subject so it can be a little unintuitive and confusing to someone who's unaware of the structure.

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That isn't true.
In German it is valid to say:
Ich esse ein Apfel. (I'm eating an Apple). Which is SVO.

However because of the cases in German word order is partially about emphasis.
i.e. "Den Mann beisst der Hund" (The dog bites the man) is the same as "Der Hund beisst den Mann"

In fact the only real rule in German is that a verb must occupy the second position of a sentence.

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Derp, forgot about cases.
*Ich esse einen Apfel

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>>1
Hard language.

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lo que pasa es que mis padres se fueron de viaje y nosotros nos quedamos en casa, mi hermana tiene 16 y yo 15, siempre nos hemos llevado bien ella y yo, mis padres se fueron el viernes temprano y llegaban el domingo por la tarde, el viernes en la noche estábamos viendo tv y de la nada nos empezamos a besar, nos calentamos de mas y nos subimos a mi cuarto lo hicimos esa noche, yo me corri 4 veces dentro de ella, y tengo que aceptar que a ella y a mi nos gusto aunque lo que hicimos fuera algo malo, al dia siguiente todo siguio normal entre nosotros y lo volvimos a hacer en la tarde durante unas horas, al dia siguiente llegaron nuestros padres y todo siguio normal, despues de un mes ella empezo con retrasos y compramos una prueba de embarazo y salio positiva y no sabemos que hacer, ustedes que opinan y como le decimos a nuestros padres que ella quedo embarazada,espero que puedan ayudarnos.

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Vos, tu hermana y el bastardo que lleva dentro me dan asco.

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Hot

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"Cuatro veces"? Seguramente sos un viejo verde desparramando sus perversiones por Internet nada más

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>>6
>>Sos
Argentino underage detected

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>>1
Rafael Villanueva Almaraz?

http://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/2014/03/31/951488

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É hora de um thread em bom e velho brazuquês, não acham?

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>>40

odeio quando isso acontece pqp

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hitler igual a jesus

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E o que fazem, anons?

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>>74
Fodendo nada.

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>>74
Amor com tua progênitora

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--- Welcome to Discussion and Quarantine Place for Japanese Thread ---

ここは/int/日本語スレッドの議論隔離スレ(通称:スナックゆう子)です。
長文が5往復以上する場合は、ここに持ち込みましょう。
This thread is for discussions and quarantines from Japanese thread. If you need more than 5 sets of your own long posts and responses, use this thread.

#前スレ http://boards.4chan.org/jp/res/11795086
#本スレ /int/内を検索

--基本ルール--
荒らし、アンチなど、スルーやNGは自己責任でお願いします。
白熱した議論と言い争いは分けて考えましょう。

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【ソース】

参考にしたのは「ボーカロイド本スレ」です。
スレ立てルールが厳密に決まっており、履行されていました。(今は知らない)
その決定過程が以下スレです。
読めば分かりますが、ここと同じ事になっています。気になる人は一読を勧めます。

・フシアナルールの決定過程
http://www.logsoku.com/r/streaming/1323251277/
・スレタイルールの決定過程
http://www.logsoku.com/r/streaming/1325671231/


【補足説明】

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【流れ詳説】

・フシアナルールの決定過程
http://www.logsoku.com/r/streaming/1323251277/
>1ヶ月も経つのに毎回毎回愉快犯にスレ立てされて何も解決してないじゃないか (>>302, ID:sWLH7Zjg0)
>なんせニートで一日中PCに貼り付いてるみたいだから勝てっこないw (>>307, ID:iSzCrAVw0)
>解決しないのはいちいち食いつくからでしょ (>>313, ID:qkLCkS7s0)
>俺もフナムシしてみた (>>334, ID:Mh7n2KpF0) ←ここら辺からフシアナが始まる。
>もう3か月も続いている奴が消えるわけないだろ (>>335, ID:C1BeQ6iKP)
>住人が強権を持たない場でどうやってルールを決めて守らせるのか (>>367, ID:qkLCkS7s0)
>よし節穴してる本スレ民だけでスレタイとルール決めるか(>>368, ID:COZ9TxH+0)
>フシアナしてる擁護が一人とかw (>>382, ID:8YyTAf9Z0)
>取り敢えず950前後は節穴で、従わせて破ったらそのスレ無視、これで何とか定着させるか (>>388, ID:COZ9TxH+0)
>荒らしがフシアナしてでも立てるかどうか見極めたい。 (>>399, ID:COZ9TxH+0)
>SeeU擁護の人いなくなったな(>>413, ID:8YyTAf9Z0)

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【流れ詳説】(続き)

・スレタイルールの決定過程
http://www.logsoku.com/r/streaming/1325671231/
>とりあえずスレ立てに異議あんなら最低でもフシアナしてくれないかな (>>40, ID:tC/3175n0)
>荒らしには断固として対応するのみ(>>50, ID:RZ/uH4VC0)
>なんか擁護は単発多いなぁw (>>65, ID:cnLTRYq40)
>まぁ確かにルール決めたならテンプレ追加しとくべきだったな (>>117, ID:r1vU55TG0)
>不特定多数がいろんな時間に出たり入ったりするスレで特定の時間に決めたからってスレ民の総意語れると思ってるの? (>>185, ID:aj7xcrLR0)
>おまえに都合の悪いルールでも他の大多数の住人は今まで何スレも平和にスレ立てしてきたんだがなw (>>191, ID:oQ87A+oe0)
>荒らしたいために荒らす人が居る限りスレタイルールを変える事は対策になって無いよ (>>212, ID:8tnHB5g90)
>一番実用的なスレタイはおそらく↓だろ (>>230, ID:NgP+LWy40) ←ここから結論を出す議論が始まる。
>>>230の方向で固定しちゃうのは、ここまでぐだるならいいと思うけど、(>>260, ID:D5SEkUHS0)
>2chのルールに反しない限り運営は何もしないから住人に出来ることは、最終的には荒らしをスルーしか無い (>>263, ID:MO7Qfxon0)
>スルーが効果ないタイプの荒らしがいる事実から目をそむけるなよ (>>272, ID:oQ87A+oe0)

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うわあああ

とうとう本格的に精神を病み始めたか………
はやく病院に行こうよ

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ツインテ君まだ居る?

KCにスレを立てている。
ほぼアニメスレ化しているから、君には合う気がする。
こっちに来てくれないか?
4chan<-->KCで交流するように持っていくつもり。

KCにはカタログがないから、「倉庫スレ」にURLを落とすことにしている。
http://krautchan.net/jp/thread-34022.html
現行:
http://krautchan.net/int/thread-21918350.html

「パンツ屋」にはばれており、うざいから、
読んだらトリ付きで返事よろしく。
他2箇所にも落としておく。返事はどこでもいい。

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In this thread, we attempt to learn to read, write, and speak English, a language which would be very useful to know. It is widely spoken throughout the world.

Do you speak English? Are you fluent? What resources did you use to learn? Can you give some examples in this thread? Posts some useful links.

Let's help each other out and learn a new language.

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>>252
And yet, you only writte here in ENGLISH

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It isn't our fault that we subjugated the world.

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>>253
Yeah, so what you dumb retard. I said people who ONLY speak in english. I'm not one of those.

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>>255
You are in a foreign language board, where you can comunicate in any language, you only do it in ENGLISH.
>> I complain about how everyone speak only English
>> I only writte and comunicate with everyone in ENGLISH

tell me who is the retard here.

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This thread is not doing a good job of convincing me that smart people speak English.

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What's a good website for learning the beautiful Swedish language? Also, how long do you think it'll take me? All my life I've been learning Romance languages so I've gotten used to it all. Please give me some insight!

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Buy this book (yes, buy it), it was probably the thing that helped me the most when learning Swedish:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Essentials-Swedish-Grammar-Practical-Mastery/dp/0844285390/ref=sr_1_2/275-8903281-1606346?ie=UTF8&qid=1396363585&sr=8-2&keywords=essential+swedish+grammar
This website is an excellent source of material to read and listen to:
http://8sidor.se
Then go on the pirate bay and see if you can find "teach yourself Swedish", it's a good set of audio files of Swedish speech that could be helpful.

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Personally I think French and Spanish don't sound pleasant. I also don't like the sound of Russian either. No offense. I am learning Spanish either way.

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Most languages have some redeeming qualities.

Russian? Sounds highly technical and badass.
German? Sounds like you mean business.
French? Sounds kind of beautiful in its harshness.
Arabic? Many Arabic dialects (especially Levantine) sound endearing and exotic. Standard Arabic sounds eloquent and poetic. Bedouin Arabic sounds rough and hardened.
Persian? Sounds ancient and poetic.
Spanish? Sounds fast and conjures images of conquistadors and Latinos.
All the south Indian languages? Sound fast, funky and funny.
African click languages? They are just fucking cool.
Japanese? Sounds unique and structured.
English? Sounds floaty and confident.
Norwegian and Swedish? Sound sing-songy and quirky.
Finnish? Sounds weird and wonderful.

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Asian, semitic languages and English all sound terrible.
German too.

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NO SEX FOR UGGLY RUSSIANS

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Turkish, Vietnamese, Thai and Khmer for me.
Spanish sounds good when spoken by Spaniards

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>>37
>>32
>>30
>>26
shut up you filty katsap

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[12:185] Romania?

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Am I the only Romanian here? Da?

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Gunoaie, toti sunteti niste gunoaie!

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year of our lord 2014
still speaking russian bootleg of the italian language

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ma cac stropi

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cine scrie in engleza pe 4chan romania e gaozar!

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cine srie in engleza e gaozar gaozar
ai ba da ce e ala gaozar?

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[13:2] cute board

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cute

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gtfo

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I wouldn't even consider myself racist, not against blacks, mexicans, whatever, but I hate all Indians with all my might.

I fucking hate Indians. They are as bad as niggers, maybe even worse. I hate them with the fury of 1000 suns, those curry eating fuckers. They are the cancer killing the modern world. Not only are they straight ugly, they are stupid. They may run tech centers and shit, but they're so stupid it's rage enticing. Every time I see an indian woman I want to throw up all over the fucking place. On top of this, they smell terrible. Every time an Indian turns to talk to me, the mixture of their BO and breathe makes me want to shoot myself to get rid of the pain. It's like they never bathe. I could take my hairy ass and rub shit all over it, not only would it be smarter and prettier than an Indian, it would smell many times better. There food is disgusting too. I could mix sewage in with vomit and make better cuisine.

Their country is shit too. It's over crowded and smelly as a pair of old dudes balls. They're the cancer killing this world, they're like niggers except they aren't as good at sports and they aren't quite as violent. Just as ugly, stupid and smelly.

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>>16
That's their fault that your third world country doesn't have minimum wage laws, right?

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wait is this /int/? where am i?

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fuck indians they are annoying mother fuckers.. they are so fucking retarded it makes me want to chop my hands off.. they are lazy peices of shit that expect everything to be done for them. fucking come into this country and take everyones jobs coz they will do it for minimal fucking wage. but all these dumb fuck business people dont realise they are shitting all over their company. open your eyes you dumb fucking business owners. you are just as dumb as they are

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yeah fuck you all..wbo hate indians..

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indian women are some of the ugliest ive ever seen

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Seguro que es un tema que ya se ha tratado anteriormente. Pero el caso es que a pesar de que 4chan me resulta muy interesante, me corta mucho tener que escribir en inglés. Se que hace tiempo se hablaba de un ñChan, pero no se como quedó eso. En definitiva ¿Alguien me puede decir como está la actualidad de chans españoles? ¿Alguno vale la pena?

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Just listen to reggaeton a lot. You'll learn Spanish very quickly!

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Hispachan es buenisimo:
http://www.hispachan.org

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Que por cierto, hispachan es el más grande, activo y el que más se parece a 4chan, creo que nunca antes hubo uno así...
hispachan.org

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Como puedo hacer para ver el post ese donde alguien dice que tiene a la chiquita Madeleine Maccan secuestrada?

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>>26
Portugal, not Spain

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Кто здесь хочет практиковать по-русский?

Бог знает, что мне нужна практика.

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Привет, десятые! Я тут отмечусь.

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I'm very interested in learning Russian, but I can't afford classes.
Are there any good free resources online?

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>>89
http://livemocha.com/ Don't know how good is it, but may be you try it.

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>>90
It's really really bad, don't use it.

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What is the best Russian<->English dictionary?

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[17:191] Italian

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HAY GUYZ!
Time for an italian thread
Orsù,facciamoci valere!

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CIAO CIAO CIAO RICCHIONCELLI
LOL HO BAMPATO IL THRED
comunque, pescara reporting in.

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Italiani baffi neri e mandolino, sempre canta sempre fa casino. Dice cosa, fa altra.

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Il tipo che ha scritto "vorrei diventare un hacker" nel post 162 secondo me non sa nemmeno che cosa sia un hacker.......

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>>179 sarebbe troppo complicato,e poi oramai siamo tutti(o quasi tutti) abituati ad usare quello in inglese.....se lo fanno in italiano molte battute perderebbero senso....

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>>190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhuOicPFZY

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[18:35] Dutch thread

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Hallo mensen, en mede-(nederlandse)-4channers
ik had het idee om een nederlandse 'chan op te richten, zit hier iemand op te wachten?

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>>25
hey you fucking nigger!
>:(
If you wanna sound cool, you should be flemish
Nederlanders : "HURR DURR KLOMPIE KAAS EN KLOMPEU JA HALLOAUW WIJ ZIJN LUIDRUCHTIG GWAK GWAK HURR"
Vlamingen : "Ik heb een goed betalende job, een vrouw en een leuk accent."

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>>31
Fuck off, baka.

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can anyone help me out with an english to frisian translator?

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www.dejimachan.org

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>>33
Just switch all the "c"s for "k"s and "i"s for "j"s, use two vowels when you could use only one, mix up some poorly-written german words, stuff like that, and there is your frisian(and dutch) translation

i.e: ijk bijn een beeg hassliskte neederlander, pleas rape mijn gesicht

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