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Can we just admit Calvinists are the new neckbeards? I literally got this pic from a Calvinist commenting on YouTube.
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>>16580695
M'lady
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I'm also a Calvinist who plans to wear a sick Victorian beardstyle because it's cool and trad, though for me it's the muttonstache
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>>16580704
Now all you need is a flatcap
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>>16580701
>Delusional Christard plays the victimcard
Nothing new
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>>16580734
>playing the victim card again hmm?

What would be plausible scenarios where WW2 last beyond our timeline's Victory Day? Can be either Europe or Asian theater or both as long as it there is no peace treaty/surrender and it lasts till

>January 1946?
>Summer 1946?
>Beyond?

And what kind of whacky shit could we have seen if the war lasted longer? Like aborted projects/plans/equipment...?
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>>16580715
Forgot to mention, doesn't matter who wins, as long the war continues

Alternatively, plausible scenarios where WW2 ends earlier than our timeline?
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>>16580715
if Germany had known about the exact location of the D-Day landings and positioned more troops in Normandy, I guess
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>>16580731
>plausible scenarios where WW2 ends earlier than our timeline?
if Operation Market Garden had succeeded
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>>16580715
>>16580731
>scenario where it lasts longer
Hitler kills himself one day later and the war ends one day later.
>scenario where it ends earlier
Hitler kills himself a day sooner and the war ends one day sooner.
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>>16580733
The Soviets would have just advanced further after taking Berlin in May(maybe June)

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Is masterbation a sin if you're single?, /his/?
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>>16580722
Doesn't stop coomers
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>>16580735
I've attempted gooning
it lets you extend things but you can't do it forever, eventually you just cum
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>>16580719
Matthew 5:28
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>>16580738
Yikes.
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>>16580738
Then only 20 minutes or so later you can start again. I’m not saying any of this is a good thing, but if you’re motivated, you can keep going all day with very small breaks. And during those breaks your basically sitting in your own filth enjoying the organism.

>Yo lets see if non-europeans kids could integrate into white sociaties and put them with european families
>we need to see if le diversity is good
>Also put them in foster houses with alcholic single Mothers and and the little girls with single male pedophiles just for the lols
Why are euros like this.

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Were communist countries of the past actually as tolerant and accepting of gay/trans people as modern communists like to make them out to be?
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No, not even remotely. I'm pretty sure they're just saying that because communism has been reduced to fringe ideology outside of China since the fall of the Soviet Union. Modern communists need all the support they can get because hardly anyone cares about the anymore, so they just kind of pretend to stand for "anti-oppression" or whatever the fuck nonsense seems most inclusive.

In fact, this might be the perfect opportunity to put on my conspiracy hat. Considering the fact that communist countries have this tendency to forcibly assimilate minority groups into the majority (the Soviet Russification and the Uygur genocide for instance), I would assume modern communists would stab the minorities they've fostered in the back and pull something like that. So let's say communists do manage to take control of an American state and secede, what do you think will happen? I think at least some of the following:
[spoiler]Knowledge American slavery would be as obscured as possible (no longer taught about in schools, while "black history month" and similar events would be phased out.
Democracy would first be turned into a sham and then slowly just be turned into one-party politics.
The understanding of Native Americans pre-dating the current population would be glossed over.
Mexican migrants might be welcome at first but their culture would sublelty be repressed and migration would stop when there are "enough" to work.
The government would keep spouting the evils of capitalism but still rely on stealing patents from capitalist nations to stay technologically up to date.
Protests would be banned.
Hormone treatment and surgery for trans people would be phased out.
Media would be banned from talking about minority oppression.
The concepts of oppression and injustice towards minority groups would be redefined drastically.[/spoiler]
Maybe not all of that but it's hardly difficult to imagine some of it would happen.
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>>16580162
It is not far fetched, they'd just need to put them in a prison and tell the prisoners who they are.
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What Jews worship isn't actually communism, but anarchy and destruction. Even nationalist aligned Jews believe today that Weimar Germany was "real Germany" and that's because that's what their jew parents told them. And why is that? Why do Jews worship a barely functional period of anarchy? Because that's what the Jew wants, because in these periods of anarchy the Jew can let go of all inhibitions. They can do drugs and have as much gay sex as the want, they can rob and steal for income, and then spend their free time writing about robbing and fucking asshole. This is the natural state of the Jew. It's no coincidence that Jews are responsible for the creation of homosexuality as we know it during these periods of chaos. And yes even in Russia there were gaps caused by communist anarchy for the degenerates to spread their wings, and that's why they worship communism
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>>16580382
That account is 90% "Russia bad" and 10% "other US enemy bad", get a better source if it happened
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No. The 1930s communists would have been considered alt-right fascists today for their social norms, because the average man came from extremely traditional and socially conservative households.

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>gaytheists claim you can't be inspired by ai art because there was no creativity put behind it
>also claim that the universe had no creativity behind it
hmm...
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>>16580659
Leviticus 25:44-46 for slavery.
1 Samuel 15:1-3 is an example of YHWH commanding infanticide, but there's more.
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>>16580627
Alright buying slaves during peacetime thats pretty bad but whats wrong with taking them during war?
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>>16580659
Dude, you've GOT to read the Old Testament.

This is Yahweh's command to Joshua after the walls of Jericho fell: "The city and all that is in it are to be devoted (Herem) to the LORD. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent."

Herem is not merely devotion, it is ritual sacrifice!
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>>16580679
In the old testament, there's slavery lite for israelite slaves and slavery plus for gentile slaves. You can practice chatel slavery with gentile slaves, which includes those captured in warfare.
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>>16580671
The lord permitted the buying of slaves from gentiles around their country, the Israelites weren't commanded to do any enslaving themselves. Though you have to also put this into the context of the NT as well which has new rules for slavery if I remember right.

In that second example it was God commanding the Israelites to punish the Amakalites for how they treated the Israelites during the exodus, it also was a test for Saul. The word "destroy" is a bit odd here though, since it doesn't appear to mean the same thing as our modern word, but rather to irrevocably give something to the Lord which in this case was the Amakalites. Again, I'm pretty sure things like this are also addressed in the NT.

Your thoughts on them?

(also, 2 days untill a kino movie on this subject dropped on howard crowhurst yt channel)
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For me, they are the sacred template of sacred geometry, astro geometry and the sacred sciences in general.
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Pleasd tell me your take on the handQ / HQ
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>>16579811
pollen baskets.
Bees went byebye for awhile in a large region, and only the smarties survived,- leading to them restarting all the best societies by solving the sedentary farming problem. (without pollination, you can't make beer, making humans get sick from overpopulation) the 'pinecone' is hops or a distributor amulet shaped like hops. With all the hops, shrooms and deliberate fermentation they put in there, urban drinks used to be hormone bombs.
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>>16580537
symbolically, the basket can also signify "1 season" or "1 harvests worth" of time, like in the pillar on the left, that shows the travel from europe to americas took 3 harvest lengths of time to reach (my guess would be from 15 to 21 days, as the 7th rest day stems from the amount of time of harvest one does before needing, or having enough, to rest)
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>>16580537
interesting take in a way

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God will save humanity from eternal hellfire and Bible clearly says this.


1. “The Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.” (1 John 4:14)

2. Jesus is “the Christ, the Savior of the world.” (John 4:42)

3. “This is good and acceptable in the sight of our God our savior; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus: Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” (1 Tim. 2:3-6, KJV)

4. Jesus “is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.” (1 John 2:2)

5. Jesus “did not come to judge the world but to save the world.” (John 12:47)

6. “Jesus, was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.” (Heb. 2:9)


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40. “How blessed is the man whose strength is in You, In whose heart are the highways to Zion! Passing through the valley of Baca [Gehenna] they make it a spring; the early rain also covers it with blessings. They go from strength to strength, Every one of them appears before God in Zion.” (Ps. 84:5-7)

41. “All nations shall come and worship You, for your judgments have been made manifested.” (Rev. 15:4)

42. “When God’s judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.” (Isaiah 26:9)

43. “Mercy shall triumph over (exalt over) judgment.” (James 2:13)

44. “Where sin abounded, grace abounded much more.” (Rom. 5:20)

45. “Every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever.” (Rev. 5:13)

46. “God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the gentiles, which is Christ in you the hope of glory.” (Col. 1: 27, 28)


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>>16580703
Cope.
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53. God will “open His hand and satisfy the desire of every living thing.” (Ps. 145:16)

54. God is “gracious in all His works.” (Ps. 145:17)

55. “The earth is the Lord’s and all its fullness, the world and those who dwell therein.” (Ps. 24:1)

56. “All the kings of the earth shall praise you, 0 Lord, when they hear the words of your mouth.” (Ps. 138:4)

57. God “reveals Himself by those who did not ask for Him: He was found by those who did not seek Him.” (Isaiah 65:1)

58. “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy. The Lord is good to all, and His tender mercies are over all His works. ALL your works shall praise you, Oh Lord.” (Ps.145:8-10)

59. “All the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before You. All those who go down to the dust (death) shall bow before You.” (Ps. 22:27, 29)


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>>16580726
You really don't need to count for us
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65. “There is no God besides Me, a just God and Savior; there is none besides Me. Look to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. I have sworn by Myself; the word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall take an oath. He shall say, surely in the Lord I have righteousness and strength. To Him men shall come, and all shall be ashamed who are incensed against Him. In the Lord all the descendants of Israel shall be justifed and shall glory.” (Isaiah 45:21-25)

66. “In this mountain the Lord of Hosts will make for all people a feast of choice pieces, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of well-refined wines on the lees. And he shall destroy on this mountain the surface of the covering cast over all nations. He will swallow up death forever, and the Lord will wipe away tears from all faces.” (Isaiah 25:6-8)

67. “All the nations of the earth shall be blessed.” (Gen. 18:18)

68. “All the families of the earth shall be blessed.” (Gen. 12:3, 28:14)

69. “It shall come to pass the saying that is written: ‘death is swallowed up in victory. Oh, Death, where is your sting Oh, Hell (Hades) where is your victory.’ the sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor. 15:54-58)

70. Of those who crucified Him (which is all of us) Jesus declared: “Father forgive them; for they know not what they do.” (Luke 23:34)

71. “But God would not take away a life; He would devise plans so that the one banished from Him does not remain banished.” 2 Sam. 14:14


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Why people claim Nords "we wuz" when medshits/Arabs constantly claim Nordic achievements as their own via "standing on shoulders"?
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>>16580690
Meanwhile the very woman in your pic lmao
Is a fact all lords and nobles on spain aee descended from steppe fenaks and crushed the slaveish eef local farming equipment
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>>16580716
Why doesnt she look med/indian tho?

Where da brown tawny medbvll skin tho?
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>>16580716
Brown hair... not very germanic
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>>16579995
Thats a reconstruction of a cherrypicked eye-catching villa
Classical antiquity greeks lived in dirty mudhuts similar to the ones you find in pakistan and saudi arabia today where they werent re-modeled by anglos
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This is the so callled "palace" of oddyseus, despite looking like something straight out of nigeria or rwanda, this was a palce on ancient greece.
Imagine what the poor lived like lol

>is the most misunderstood ideology
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>>16580682
I wasn't the libertarian responding to this. In fact I agree with your point. I was just using your comment as a bench to put my own, but I apologise if I was unclear.
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>>16580643
Roads and national defense are two fields that most libertarians would agree on as being better handled by the government. Ancap extremists would disagree of course.

You can look at history to get an idea of things that worked when they were left to the free market and things that definitely did not work.
Nobody wants things like company towns with company stores that push people into inescapable debt cycles, or two tier citizenship where foreigners work like slaves and get no representation.

>libertarian party
There are also a lot of "liberal" parties around the globe and most of them aren't liberal at all. A party does not "own" an ideology just because they put it in their name. The American Libertarian Party follows only one brand of libertarianism (rather poorly most of the time).
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>>16580685
Ah sorry. I'm just not a fan of "ideas". At work I hear too many "ideas" like it's the next best thing or the silver bullet that's going to solve all of our problems but it's 100% because these fucks heard it from somewhere and are gunning to self-promote for a promotion. And then when they present these ideas, they have no practical way to implement it because they didn't think of the logistics of actually turning it into reality.

It's why I hate the word "innovate". It's fucking everywhere. I need concrete details and actual working practicals, not fanciful theories and optimistic what-if scenarios.
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yeah some people think it's about freedom (and libertarian orgs love the confusion, gets people who aren't multimillionaire land barons to buy in) when it's really about supporting property owners against literally everyone else
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>>16580694
I can get that. I feel something similar for a decent amount of things, like veganism, antinatalism and assisted suicide for instance. I don't think it's a coincidence that major historical figures generally get their way into power not mainly through actually providing good shit, but mainly by leaning on and taking advantage of existing concerns of the people they were trying to appeal to. If Hitler was talking to the German people (you know, mostly raised urban and industrial) about starting a plant-based utopia where everybody does farming and shit, I'm positive he would have went nowhere.

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To what degree are Slavs decent from the Scythians? Do some Slavs claim heritage from them?
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>>16580451
"slav" is a fake group identity created so that Russia and the rest of Europe could fight eachother while pretending to be different races

I assume you push this fake bit of propaganda to keep alive the conflict between people who have no good reason to destroy each other
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>>16580451
See R1a Z93/94
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>>16580451
It’s gotta be at least a little bit, especially for East Slavs. Take it with a grain of salt, but I have some west Slavic ancestry and did one of those stupid admixture calculators for ancient populations, and I got like 7-9% Scythian dna on it.

Idk. As a libertarian, I want to be able to point to somewhere
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>>16578264
the old pirate republics
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>>16580362
Singapore is a city-state and not exactly libertarian. They're business-friendly but the government intervenes in things like housing and imposes a lot of minor regulations.
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>>16580670
>The project has been associated with an increase in the number and aggressiveness of black bears in town, including entering homes, mauling people, and eating pets.[27] A single, definitive cause for the abnormal behavior of the bears has not been proven, but it may be due to libertarian residents who refuse to buy and use bear-resistant containers, who do not dispose of waste materials (such as feces) safely, or who deliberately put out food to attract the bears to their own yards, but do not feel any responsibility for how their behavior affects their neighbors.
These people sound like toddlers.
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>>16580686
Nice gibberish - looks like a true creative work of wikipedia editor.
It was illegal to harm bears in this town - duh
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>>16580706
There were news articles and even a book on the topic. If it's all a giant fabrication it's not the wiki editor responsible.

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So in Islam the prophets are generally protected from major sins while sometimes commiting minor sin.
In Islam Adam is considered a prophet and he sinned. So did Jonah. Even Muhammed made mistakes and minor sins. We don't believe in stuff like Lot having incestuous sex.
However there are some muslims who seem to get offended when this is said and state the prophets were infallible in every regard which sounds a bit like making them into some sort of demigods.

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Nationalism is the reason for the survival of nation-states. Nationalists are the protectors of their nation who will fight for their culture and the survival of their people. When an enemy invades, nationalists willingly take up arms and shed blood and sweat and tears to protect their beloved homelands while anti-nationalists flee or be forced to take up arms.

Anti-nationalism is a position taken by the privilege who are protected by nationalists or face no immediate threat from enemies. Anti-nationalists are retards who think they're smart and try to convince you to have no stake in the culture and place you were raised in. You'll notice that in times of strife and war, nationalist sentiments tend to rise because people unite themselves to protect themselves and their interest.
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>>16580613
A nationalist can reason that a nation has the right to be left alone, just like a person does.
If you dont have any national spirit why should you be againts conquest and genocide?
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Einstein also wrote an open letter condemning the Deir Yassin massacre and Irgun (now Likud)'s treatment of Palestinians
And that's the real fruit of nationalism. Humanity thrown away in favor of cruelty to those who look different from you or speak a different language.
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>>16580645
The Deir Yassin is Arab propaganda and exaggerated garbage. https://www.asmeascholars.org/the-massacre-that-never-was
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>>16580674
just like the hospitals blown up in Gaza, right?
Nationalists always lie, they like this almost as much as they like starting wars with their neighbors
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>>16580605
>nationalism protects culture
This is obviously wrong. Lot of french dialects were supressed because of french nationalism politics. I'm sure you can find more examples of nationalists destroy things from other cultures


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